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	<title>Comments on: Follow up on Sakai 3 Webinar &#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Feldstein</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Laura,
Great post. I&#039;ll respond to just a few pieces of it. First of all, like many community-driven open source projects, Sakai isn&#039;t great at doing marketing and communications outside of the adoptee community. They&#039;ve gotten better over the last couple of years, but they still have a lot of work to do. And the webinar that you attended in particular was aimed primarily at existing Sakai adoptees--specifically, it was focused on informing them about the major re-architecture that is underway and recruit development resources. (Hence, the Amway feel.) This was a pitch aimed at schools that are already committed to the product, many of whom have contributed development resources in the past. I have suggested to Michael Korcuska that it would be a good idea to do a different webinar aimed at non-Sakai schools.
Regarding your questions, keep in mind that Sakai v3 doesn&#039;t exist yet. We can talk about the goals and intentions, and we can also talk about what exists in prototype, but we can&#039;t say with certainty what the capabilities of the final product will be. So the devil you don&#039;t know is going to stay unknown for a while yet. For that reason, you may choose to wait a while longer before evaluating v3. The current version is another story. Josh Barron of Marist College is hosting a webinar tomorrow at noon Eastern time on his college&#039;s migration process to the current version of Sakai. You can register for it here: &lt;a href=&quot;https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/823713953.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/823713953.&lt;/a&gt; I would also recommend going to one of the Sakai support vendors (e.g., Unicon or rSmart) to get a product pitch that focuses on answering your questions and feels a little bit more like what you&#039;re used to getting from your vendors.
On the SIS integration front, I think there are good reasons to be hopeful. Unicon has contributed support for the IMS LIS standard to the current version of Sakai. (I happen to know a bit about this because it&#039;s one of the things I work on at Oracle and I&#039;m on the IMS working group for the standard.) LIS is specifically designed for SIS/LMS interoperability. Sungard has publicly committed to implementing the standard, but has not announced when that support would come. You might want to ask them about it. There&#039;s work being done by Berkeley for Sakai 3 that would bake this integration standard and, more generally, interoperability support for a range of identity management standards, into the core of the product.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Laura,<br />
Great post. I&#8217;ll respond to just a few pieces of it. First of all, like many community-driven open source projects, Sakai isn&#8217;t great at doing marketing and communications outside of the adoptee community. They&#8217;ve gotten better over the last couple of years, but they still have a lot of work to do. And the webinar that you attended in particular was aimed primarily at existing Sakai adoptees&#8211;specifically, it was focused on informing them about the major re-architecture that is underway and recruit development resources. (Hence, the Amway feel.) This was a pitch aimed at schools that are already committed to the product, many of whom have contributed development resources in the past. I have suggested to Michael Korcuska that it would be a good idea to do a different webinar aimed at non-Sakai schools.<br />
Regarding your questions, keep in mind that Sakai v3 doesn&#8217;t exist yet. We can talk about the goals and intentions, and we can also talk about what exists in prototype, but we can&#8217;t say with certainty what the capabilities of the final product will be. So the devil you don&#8217;t know is going to stay unknown for a while yet. For that reason, you may choose to wait a while longer before evaluating v3. The current version is another story. Josh Barron of Marist College is hosting a webinar tomorrow at noon Eastern time on his college&#8217;s migration process to the current version of Sakai. You can register for it here: <a href="https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/823713953." rel="nofollow"></a><a href="https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/823713953" rel="nofollow">https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/823713953</a>. I would also recommend going to one of the Sakai support vendors (e.g., Unicon or rSmart) to get a product pitch that focuses on answering your questions and feels a little bit more like what you&#8217;re used to getting from your vendors.<br />
On the SIS integration front, I think there are good reasons to be hopeful. Unicon has contributed support for the IMS LIS standard to the current version of Sakai. (I happen to know a bit about this because it&#8217;s one of the things I work on at Oracle and I&#8217;m on the IMS working group for the standard.) LIS is specifically designed for SIS/LMS interoperability. Sungard has publicly committed to implementing the standard, but has not announced when that support would come. You might want to ask them about it. There&#8217;s work being done by Berkeley for Sakai 3 that would bake this integration standard and, more generally, interoperability support for a range of identity management standards, into the core of the product.</p>
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